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WE Need IPV6 Support in MX

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ACK.  There will be some announcements coming up in the next month, unfortunately I don't think IPv6 for the MX is in the next batch of regular product/feature announcements.  But the fearute request is firmly in place.  Please do get your designs and use cases fed back through your Meraki sales team, they need to take any/all of your opportunities and add them to the Feature Request so things can be prioritized, and you may also be able to get on an early beta firmware when the time comes.

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@MerakiDave IPv6 WAN support is really what is needed on our side. All of our upstream providers offer it. While we don't really have any plans for IPv6 port forwarding or anything like that ATM, offloading traffic to native IPv6 is just part of being a good netizen. We also like to support the broadest range of connectivity options we can.

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We need IPv6 support for a customer solution to service the dual stack solution they are asking!

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Now the new year started and we continue without support of IPv6 in MX devices. All the provider are offering IPv6 and many sites working inside of this technology, as well as IPv6 traffic globally keep increasing.

 

We need has this support in order to increase customer support and increase installation and many countries. All vendor are accepting this feature. 


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At the moment the MX range is like a premier league player's WAG. 

To explain, the northern county of Cheshire is is very pleasant and full of desirable properties (like Greenwich, or Scarsdale or Bronxville for East Coasters) so is choc full of flash money. Dry northern humour says of these otherwise admirable women, something along the lines of "that's all fur coat, no knickers" it is even in the Oxford dictionary.

 

Back to the MX, too much it doesn't do -

 

in no particular order and with no pretense at being comprehensive

 

  • IGMP proxy (for multicast)
  • can't provide access to Chromecast devices from a different VLAN (unlike Bonjour)
  • no IPv6 (and don't even contemplate tunnelling, please)
  • can't put a local IP address on WAN uplink
  • no IKEv2 (forst published 2005 - Internet standard 2014)

as the dictionary definition says - Have an impressive or sophisticated appearance which belies the fact that there is nothing to substantiate it. The MX is in need of love and attention. Cisco manages to do it.

 

 

 

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IGMP proxy (for multicast)

I'm curious on your use case for this. Hardly ever see multicast used in most environments.
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@BHC_RESORTS wrote:
IGMP proxy (for multicast)

I'm curious on your use case for this. Hardly ever see multicast used in most environments.

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Well different technologies in different parts of the world.

 

In North America corporations make extensive use of video conferencing over internal networks. Multicast makes a lot of sense in this situation, it helps prevent duplicate streams overwhelming the network (not unlike Akamai). In Europe and East Asia a slightly different configuration is used to distribute premium subscription TV content. As the telcos, who also happen to be content distributors, like to make efficient use of their own networks, they chose to use multicast. These telcos, mostly the original PTT incumbents, also provide managed services. They need the equipment they use to provide and mange services to be able to handle fixed, mobile, VoIP, broadband and television subscriptions. If it can't do VoIP and television, it is not nearly as popular as it could be.

 

I will be watching the Winter Olympics live from Korea in 4K TV, not having multicast for something like that is very expensive for the carrier/ISP. The most popular sport on television in most of the world is football (soccer in the USA). The most watched leagues globally are the Champions League (top European teams) and the premier leagues of the UK, Germany, Spain, Italy and France, even in East Asia. Getting 4K TV is a big part of this.

 

Delivering managed services to bars with premium sport on TV is big and profitable business.

 

These premium services go beyond sports, so many professional practices will have multicast capability as part of their corporate infrastructure, but also they are able to handle the version that the subscription services make use of. Certainly I saw the the TV in the doctors waiting room showing multicast channels.

 

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Re: WE Need IPV6 Support in MX

Yes!  We needed this like a year ago.  Most of our cell phone users can’t connect to the client VPN since carriers are switching to IPv6 only.  Please get this done Meraki!

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If Meraki is looking for a use case here is one:

 

The Meraki MX systems value manageability over connectivity as compared to all the other firewall vendors.  This puts them behind in basic functionality.  If you need or want IPV6, a Meraki MX is not for you.  Is that what the company really wants?

 

Why can Sonicwall, Cisco, Watchguard, Fortinet and others all support IPV6.  Does Meraki not understand that the IPV4 pool in the US was depleted last year?

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Agreed.  The phone carriers push out an update last week that broke our phone VPN's for all carriers except ATT.  This is directly impacting our business as our sales people can't VPN into our network to do their demos.  I am the | | close to telling Meraki to pick up their gear.  v6 is 15 years old and there is no excuse for lack of support.

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@jhouts wrote:

Agreed.  The phone carriers push out an update last week that broke our phone VPN's for all carriers except ATT.  This is directly impacting our business as our sales people can't VPN into our network to do their demos.  I am the | | close to telling Meraki to pick up their gear.  v6 is 15 years old and there is no excuse for lack of support.


I can't find a flaw in your argument. The entire MX line probably needs replacement.

 

For our own distributed environment we are placing a BrandX gateway ahead of each MX because that gives us IPv6, hideous IoT and multicast coverage, that Meraki simply does not address.

 

If Meraki does come up with an MX alternative, I seriously hope that they adopt the principal of zonal security.

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You're right! It would be great if IPv6 is supported.

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Has Meraki said anything officially or unofficially about this yet?

 

As more and more IPv6-only endpoints appear, it's becoming more of an issue everyday in various environments.

 

 

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@edcho wrote:

Has Meraki said anything officially or unofficially about this yet? 


The MX team did mention that v6 is "on our roadmap" in the Quarterly Update yesterday. See here (33:05 timestamp): https://youtu.be/CBCTMh-h2zs?t=33m5s

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I agree with this, awaiting response from Cisco Meraki due to VPN's breaking and support for IPv6.

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I do find it a bit disappointing that for the price and everything else that these devices don't support IPv6.

 

These are supposed to be the best of the best yet can't handle IPv6.

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I would imagine adding support for IPV6 would be a full stack project the touches all parts of the architecture, so it not a task to jump into lightly.  That said, there are no more IPV4 addresses in the US, except at ISPs.  Any new technologies like 5G will need IPV6 addresses, so it high time for Meraki to be working actively on the issue.

 

It is good to hear that it is on the road map, but it would be better to know that there is a live project for it.

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The T-Mobile IPV6 is going to cost a multi hundred device deal with a client of mine. We highly recommended Meraki a while back and the lack of support and the promise of it is coming but never being here has egg all over our faces.

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We have just been notified by 2 of our rural ISPs that they will no longer be able to provide IPv4 addresses. They are such small ISPs that cannot keep IPv4 address space and will be converting everyone to IPv6 over the next 6 months. (Note these are the only ISPs available) This will not matter to their residential customers who just get a new modem and they work fine. BUT! We have MANY sites with MX devices that are critical to our business and the safety and well being of people in these areas. We do not have the money to replace all these devices with something else, not to mention it will break our VPN mesh. Meraki we need IPv6 support ASAP, we can no longer wait.

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Meraki, your silence on this topic speaks volumes...

 

Surely your product managers are aware that IPV6 became a Draft Standard in December 1998, and became a ratified Internet standard on 14 July 2017. Service providers are already making the switch in a big way yet a "premium product" like Meraki doesn't support a ratified standard, it isn't as though this is all new at this point.  Products at a fraction of the cost already support it.What's the delay?

 

Meraki needs to stop being silent on this topic and inform your "valued partners" and proponents re IPV6 with more than a "its on our roadmap"

 

 

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I have a meeting next week with a large gaming/hotel company that we are recommending to remove ALL Meraki and goto another solution immediately. They are looking at over ten thousand room's of hotel space and Meraki just doesn't give a hoot.

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Meraki is excited to bring lots of new features to market to delight our customers with a sophisticated feature set that has simplicity built-in. The MX team is aware of the request for IPV6, along with several other features that have been listed in this thread and elsewhere on the community. We appreciate everyone’s feedback, your “Make a Wish” requests on the dashboard, and coming to talk to us during trade shows. Thanks, and keep it coming!

 

I’d love to give you a peek into the Meraki magic happening behind the scenes to see what we have in store! Unfortunately, we generally do not comment publicly on our roadmap. Please get in touch with your Meraki representative for specific timelines for new features.

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@davidvan wrote:

Meraki is excited to bring lots of new features to market to delight our customers with a sophisticated feature set that has simplicity built-in. The MX team is aware of the request for IPV6, along with several other features that have been listed in this thread and elsewhere on the community. We appreciate everyone’s feedback, your “Make a Wish” requests on the dashboard, and coming to talk to us during trade shows. Thanks, and keep it coming!

 

I’d love to give you a peek into the Meraki magic happening behind the scenes to see what we have in store! Unfortunately, we generally do not comment publicly on our roadmap. Please get in touch with your Meraki representative for specific timelines for new features.


@davidvan, this isn't at all helpful and is simply more of the same babble. May we suggest you laser focus on critical features like IPV6 Vs. the new fluff if not already doing so and put out an official statement and timeline for IPV6, you are about to haemorrhage partners and customers for not doing so. I've been a Product Manager and would have lost my job having missed critical deliverables as important as this. It's hardly new at this point and should be well beyond "Make a wish" and/or conversation at Cisco events. As for not commenting publicly, IPV6 isn't exactly a competitive advantage for Meraki at this point but rather a liability you need to address quickly.

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@davidvan wrote:

Meraki is excited to bring lots of new features to market to delight our customers with a sophisticated feature set that has simplicity built-in. The MX team is aware of the request for IPV6, along with several other features that have been listed in this thread and elsewhere on the community. We appreciate everyone’s feedback, your “Make a Wish” requests on the dashboard, and coming to talk to us during trade shows. Thanks, and keep it coming!

 

I’d love to give you a peek into the Meraki magic happening behind the scenes to see what we have in store! Unfortunately, we generally do not comment publicly on our roadmap. Please get in touch with your Meraki representative for specific timelines for new features.


@davidvan, this isn't at all helpful and is simply more of the same babble. May we suggest you laser focus on critical features like IPV6 Vs. the new fluff if not already doing so and put out an official statement and timeline for IPV6, you are about to haemorrhage partners and customers for not doing so. I've been a Product Manager and would have lost my job having missed critical deliverables as important as this. It's hardly new at this point and should be well beyond "Make a wish" and/or conversation at Cisco events. As for not commenting publicly, IPV6 isn't exactly a competitive advantage for Meraki at this point but rather a liability you need to address quickly. Admit you've messed up and tell us how/when you are going to fix it.

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I can't agree with @Cohort_Networks more. It's all more of the same "no-answer" answers. 

 

This isn't some new technology that no one else knows about or is proprietary to Cisco/Meraki. It is literally a 'standard' in networking technology and has been for years.

 

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@davidvan Wow - that is not the kind of comment anyone is looking for from a Meraki employee on the topic of IPv6. If all Meraki has to say is "Keep making wishes!", this is probably not the thread to come say that in. This is not what I have come to expect from Meraki and am really disappointed by this kind of commentary from an employee. 

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What a joke and a disgrace! I think that we will move from not recommending to active removal with attitude like that!

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I agree that the Meraki response was beyond awful for a core networking technology.

 

I think that it is time to jump off this board and start calling your sales reps and letting them know we need more information.

 

The more wood we can throw on this fire, the better we will get noticed and get answers.

 

 

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It's not critical for us now but this seems like a basic requirement that should be implemented shortly. 

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@grimm_j Unfortunately, it is critical. The Internet infrastructure has changed so much that many service providers are going full IPv6. This becomes very important, especially organizations that are at the cutting edge pushing the boundaries of technology. IPv6 is a requirement and whats holding Meraki back is their security appliance not supporting IPv6 yet.


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I have run into issues with the lack of IPv6 both at home and at work.  I have an iPhone on T-Mobile and they do not hand out IPv4 to their phones anymore.  Means I can't connect to my work VPN or my home VPN.

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Its not just that they don't have IPv6 its the total radio silence. Not even a we are working on it and expect it by Q whatever 18 or 19. Even if they added it as supportable but still needed IPv4 in the short term to phone home that would be preferable to no IPv6 support period.

 

I would also echo the other comments in this thread that Meraki employees quit calling it a feature. When everyone else supports its no longer a feature its a basic requirement.

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@Bovie2K I agree.  I just rolled out internal IPv6 at the office but had to get an internal only IPv6 range.  I know both the ISP we have at work and the ISP I have at home support IPv6.  One via static allocation (I believe), the other via IPv6-PD.  I want both to work since I am he.net IPv6 certified.

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@Bovie2K wrote:

Its not just that they don't have IPv6 its the total radio silence. Not even a we are working on it and expect it by Q whatever 18 or 19. Even if they added it as supportable but still needed IPv4 in the short term to phone home that would be preferable to no IPv6 support period.

 

I would also echo the other comments in this thread that Meraki employees quit calling it a feature. When everyone else supports its no longer a feature its a basic requirement.


@CarolineS What makes Meraki's radio silence on IPv6 even worse is that they would reference this thread as one that I assume Meraki is taking flack on in the community birthday announcement sent out yesterday yet continue to stand on their non-answer answers. It screams "we hear you but don't really care" and demonstrates how tone deaf Meraki is on this issue. It's shameful and borders on irresponsible!

 

We ask again... When is Cisco Meraki rolling out support of IPv6 on the MX and the rest of the Meraki network stack in beta and when is Meraki hoping to have it into stable release? "We continue to chip away at IPv6" during Meraki's quarterly update webcasts is not a suitable response to an important question.

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Its kind of a bummer to think that so many users are so close to pulling all Meraki equipment and they (both the user and Meraki) will lose so much money over a standard protocol like IPV6.

 

How long do you think the iPhone would last if Apple suddenly decided it doesnt need a standard web browser anymore?

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this article is in german: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/IPv4-Daemmerung-Telekom-testet-IPv6-only-Kommunikation-im-Mo...

 

the message ist very clear: IPv6 is already there, also in europe/germany. IPv6 only is being tested. it is the future. RIP IPv4 and - hopefully(!) - not meraki.

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I hate to say it, but I'm about to switch my router to something that supports IPv6 PD and just keep my switch and AP.
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@davidvan I know you are likely still feeling a bit of a sting from the replies to your last response re IPv6 on this post (sorry for that) but you still have a "community" looking for Meraki's guidance re the IPv6 standard which was fully ratified LAST YEAR and that Cisco Meraki still does not support. Therefore, we ask again and request a more appropriate and productive response than we received last time to the simple question: When is Cisco Meraki rolling out support of IPv6 on the MX and the rest of the Meraki network stack in beta and when is Meraki hoping to have it into stable release?

 

If Meraki isn't going to provide honest and transparent answers to the questions people have on the matter why even bother with this community? Again, IPv6 isn't a competitive advantage Meraki needs to hide from the world while in development, it's a requirement that both partners and customers need to be kept informed on.

 

 

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I am regretting making the choice of a Meraki MX64 at work due to this.  I wanted to start rolling out IPv6 but I can't since they don't support it.

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Hopefully, but doubtful on my part, the quarterly update tomorrow will give us something on this front.


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We are regretting even breathing the word Meraki, it has cost us two clients just due to this one issue.

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I just attended to quarterly Webinar.

 

IPV6 ACL in MS series is the closest to any real talk about IPV6.  In response to questions about IPV6, the response was that they are "continually chipping away at IPV6".

 

To change the chipping away to a commitment the community needs to step up and:

 

  1. Call your sales rep and tell then IPV6 in MX is critical.  Keep calling!
  2. Continually click the Make a Wish on the MX page and enter IPV6 with a reason of why it is needed.
  3. Attend the quarterly meetings and ask about MX IPV6.  

We need to stop complaining to ourselves and ramp up our complaining the Meraki directly every chance we get.

 

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Let my sales rep know I need it at home and at work, he got promoted so he sent it to my new sales rep (I think he was my rep for a month).  Honestly, at this point I will probably rip out all my Meraki gear at home and deploy new Ubiquiti gear (since I gave my old Ubiquiti gear to my parents when I got my Meraki stack).

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We are in somewhat of the same boat. We have spent well over 50k on devices and licensing. Our ISP has no more IPv4 to hand out. Some of our servers require it such as Micrsoft's DirectAccess. 

 

I am deeply saddened that Meraki is not more transparent on this issue. Even something as much as we are almost done, expect it sometime next year would suffice.

 

At this time if we don't see something by the end of the year we will have to switch to something like SonicWall.

 

Very sad Meraki. As others have stated this is a feature that has been out on even the cheapest routers and firewalls for a long time. Yet Meraki can't seem to get this deployed? I am almost positive they probably have 1 or 2 guys working on this while the rest are working on the billions of beta firmware they seem to have.

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I will chime in with this as well, we have a deployed fleet of MX's across several states/locations.  And I live in fear of at least one of them deciding to force IPv6 on us at one of the various ISP's.

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Yeah TL I know what you mean, my nightmare of losing an almost 7 figure a year client came true last week due to Meraki sitting on their arse about this. They are blaming us and talking about a lawsuit. 

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We're a startup, setting up our corporate and service network and I need to expose some servers for public access. We have restricted IPv4 space from ISP, so I decide to learn about IPv6. Become IPv6 master (okay, not quite, but much more educated now). I decide IPv6 is the right answer for many challenges we're facing, so I log into my Meraki dashboard to implement IPv6 on MX, MS, and MR. Don't see any options in the menus; decide to find instructions online. Find this thread instead. 

 

Next step: change our network infrastructure?

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@Austin wrote:

We're a startup, setting up our corporate and service network and I need to expose some servers for public access. We have restricted IPv4 space from ISP, so I decide to learn about IPv6. Become IPv6 master (okay, not quite, but much more educated now). I decide IPv6 is the right answer for many challenges we're facing, so I log into my Meraki dashboard to implement IPv6 on MX, MS, and MR. Don't see any options in the menus; decide to find instructions online. Find this thread instead. 

 

Next step: change our network infrastructure?


@Austin if you are looking for a response from Cisco Meraki on this don’t hold your breath. All they do is respond with canned non-answer responses and direct you to your Meraki rep. who  I followed up with but they only give the same useless response those Meraki staff in the community give. Both Meraki senior management and Cisco senior management all have public social media accounts (Twitter). It may be time to be reaching out to them directly. My account rep ageeed that might be a good approach since their hands are tied. The current situation is unacceptable.

 

 

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@Cohort_Networks: i also do think it's time to make this issue public. nothing happens if we continue here on this thread. which twitter accouts shall we write to?

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IPv6 needed

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