2*MS425 Stacking or VRRP?

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Eddy_X
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2*MS425 Stacking or VRRP?

I have a traditional Cisco HSRP setup with two Cisco6509E acting as the core. Now we are going to replace those 2 Cisco 6509E with 2 MS425. I am trying to figure out if I should use stacking or VRRP.

Option1, physical stack with 2*MS425

Option2, VRRP between two MS425

 

If I do option2, I guess the network topology is simply a one-to-one replacement from Cisco6509 to MS425. From what I understand, the VRRP can not be created between the stacked switch. So, that means the VRRP can only be done between 2 of MS425. I only have 32 SFP+ on each of them. What if I need more SFP+?

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If I do option1, I can stack these two MS425 like the topology. So my question here is, do I get redundancy like VRRP from the core stack? My understanding is the STACK has one IP that will be acting as the L3 gateway. So if one of the switches in the stack failed, is the L3 gateway still be working fine?

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Thank you everyone.

 

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Bruce
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Re: 2*MS425 Stacking or VRRP?

@Eddy_X I'd go with the stack option. You are correct that there in only one Layer 3 gateway per VLAN, but in the event that one switch in the stack fails then the second will take over and the network will continue (there may be a tiny outage while the stack reconfigures to accommodate for the failed switch). The other benefit of the stack is that the down-links to the access switches can be configured as aggregated links (LACP) across the two switches so that you get the benefit of the full bandwidth of both links under normal operating conditions.

 

Since you're using MS425 the stack is created using front panel ports, commonly the 40Gbps ports (but you can use 10Gbps ports if you want). One of the benefits here is that you can use most Meraki SFP/QFP modules so you can actually extend the stack across multiple racks, or even multiple rooms (or buildings) if you have the structured fibre in place to achieve this.

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Bruce
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Re: 2*MS425 Stacking or VRRP?

@Eddy_X I'd go with the stack option. You are correct that there in only one Layer 3 gateway per VLAN, but in the event that one switch in the stack fails then the second will take over and the network will continue (there may be a tiny outage while the stack reconfigures to accommodate for the failed switch). The other benefit of the stack is that the down-links to the access switches can be configured as aggregated links (LACP) across the two switches so that you get the benefit of the full bandwidth of both links under normal operating conditions.

 

Since you're using MS425 the stack is created using front panel ports, commonly the 40Gbps ports (but you can use 10Gbps ports if you want). One of the benefits here is that you can use most Meraki SFP/QFP modules so you can actually extend the stack across multiple racks, or even multiple rooms (or buildings) if you have the structured fibre in place to achieve this.

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Rick_Nceatt
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Re: 2*MS425 Stacking or VRRP?

In your case (in the same location), I think stacking is better, which provide a bit faster fail-over time than VRRP, also, it uses less IP addresses.  Keep it simple and solve the problem.

Inderdeep
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Re: 2*MS425 Stacking or VRRP?

@Eddy_X : Well i will go with Stacking. 

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UCcert
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Re: 2*MS425 Stacking or VRRP?

Hi @Eddy_X , I’d sweat the 6509’s till they ceased working as they’ve always served us well. Sad day when you decommission those.

 

In all seriousness and as others have stated go for the stacking model.

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Eddy_X
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Re: 2*MS425 Stacking or VRRP?

Thanks @UCcert ,6509 is definitely a great great product. We had no issue at all in the past ten years. The only thing is that we had two and one of them is water damaged and we could not get it replaced. Also, the MS425 has been purchased, and I do not want to leave it just in the storage room.  

Eddy_X
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Re: 2*MS425 Stacking or VRRP?

I guess stacking is the way to go. Thanks.

PhilipDAth
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Re: 2*MS425 Stacking or VRRP?

Also note that on Cisco Meraki when you use VRRP it disables other things, like OSPF.  With a stack, all the features remain usable.

PhilipDAth
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Re: 2*MS425 Stacking or VRRP?

The only downside of using a stack is when you do a firmware upgrade both stack members need to reboot at the same time.  So you will get an outage.

 

If you are able to schedule in a 5-minute outage window every 6 months for the firmware upgrades the stack is the better option.

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