New C8111 and C8121 MX Models

[Mloraditch]

I'm guessing these are to be announced at Cisco Live EMEA this week:
https://documentation.meraki.com/SASE_and_SD-WAN/MX/Product_Information/Overviews_and_Datasheets/C81...

Appears to be our next gen MX6x replacements. Maybe even MX75, depending on your use case.  I wish they had at least one mGig LAN port. They are loaded in CCW and pricing on the 8111 is more than a base MX67 but cheaper than an MX75

[cmr]

I like the fact that the C8121 has three PoE LAN ports and that the WAN ports are PoE, but why 2.5Gb on the WAN and only 1Gb on the LAN.  Yes I know that multiple LAN devices can use the shared WAN, but they really should have at least one mGig LAN port...  Hopefully it's a typo! 🤞

[PhilipDAth]

Not very, pretty.

[BlakeRichardson]

That was my first thought. 

[PhilipDAth]

No built in cellular options, at least not yet.

[jbright]

Patience Grasshopper 😉

[Brash]

I saw these in the license calculator and was wondering if I missed the announcement.

I agree with @PhilipDAth not particularly pretty. I actually like the look of the original Cisco model better.

One thing to be aware of is that if they're like the C8445 models, they are not interchangeable between Meraki and IOS-XE software:

All C8455-G2-MX or C8455-G2 models continue throughout their life with the same OS personality that they were ordered with. It is NOT possible to convert the Operating System (OS) on the C8455-G2-MX to IOS-XE.

Cisco 8000 Series Secure Routers Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) - Cisco Meraki Documentation

[Sam_Adams]

I really wonder what they will do with the Subscription licensing. The Subscription page is unclear how the subscription levels will map to Meraki feature-sets.

The Cisco Routing Advantage vs Cisco WAN Essentials vs Cisco WAN Advantage is unclear, because in Meraki world, it's not the same thing as Cisco Catalyst SD-WAN (Viptela). For example, which option would include security features, which one includes SD-WAN?

This is really the first series to go unified with the licensing so hopefully we don't get shortended with a product that is limited by the Meraki control plane, and cannot be converted to run IOS-XE or be part of Cisco Catalyst SD-WAN, but be forced to pay the same licensing fees as Cisco Catalyst SD-WAN.

We are looking to swap out MX64s to MX67/75, and this client uses Enterprise agreement with Subscription licensing. So, the clear match would be one of these 8111's would be great replacements for those!

[MilesMeraki]

The Cisco-XE/SDWAN 8100 Series models have way more interface options/configurations - integrated cellular, XGS-PON?

Why can't this be put into the MX line of the hardware?

I thought Cisco taking over the ownership of the MX hardware would see an increase in possible flexibility in the MX range ordering (more variation in models).

I hope this isn't the start of something where the MX line slowly dies off.. 

[Sam_Adams]

So, it looks like they are different licenses then the regular MX skus even for subscriptions. This will be fun updating an enterprise agreement subscription with these new models, which will likely cause delays since we go through a distributor. 

But, the pricing in CCW is actually really good, IMO. You are getting MX85 performance for right in the middle between MX67 and MX75 pricing. 

Now, if you are a Cisco Partner, I encourage you to check out the Instant Meraki Demo on dcloud. There might be another org in there that is related to this topic that may just show another IOS-XE router being hybrid managed inside of the Meraki Dashboard!

I'm not going to post anything else about that because this is a public form, but I'm really liking the way that this is going so far! We have had several MX75s die and the MX67s and MX85s have been fine, along with the MX64/84s (Which are EOS). This product is really good for that entire segment of anyone on a MX84 or below and who needs an upgrade. This is a major jump from a MX84 in terms of performance if their specs are true. 

[thomasthomsen]

RIP MX6x and MX75 when I look at price, license price, and performance.
But that was expected I think... I mean, anyone who saw these small C8K routers must have thought ... thats a new small MX 🙂
The two C81X1 belongs to the C8K-G2-MX Small SUB SKU i see.

C8455 to the C8K-G2-MX X-Large SUB SKU ..... 
So .. can we now easily guess what SKUs will be in the , surely, upcomming Medium and Large SUB SKUs .. I think we can 🙂