Network That contains both an MR access point and a security appliance with integrated wireless.

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Mikey
Conversationalist

Network That contains both an MR access point and a security appliance with integrated wireless.

I'm getting this error: This network contains both an MR access point and a security appliance with integrated wireless. The security appliance will not mesh with the access point and some aspects of the client experience, such as roaming, may be negatively affected by this network configuration.

 

I understand that this is because I'm using both and MR AP and a MX64W. I would like to use both access points w/the same SSID's. Does this have to be 2 split networks? Is there a way to properly configure this or a best practice configuration so roaming will work correctly on both the MR and the MX without splitting the networks?

Mikey Romero
IT Guy!
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MerakiDave
Meraki Employee

Re: Network That contains both an MR access point and a security appliance with integrated wireless.

@Mikey you are correct, the wireless version of the MX appliances are meant to be for small standalone deployments as @PhilipDAth indicated.  If you then add an MR to that same network, you would have to manage it as 2 separate wireless networks, one from the Wireless locale in Dashboard and one from the Wireless Settings page under the Security Appliance locale.  This can work but not seamlessly and not best practice, it's still 2 separate networks and was not meant to scale in that fashion.  The way to scale that is deploying a non-W MX appliance (or disabling wireless on the MX) and deploying 2 access points to be managed as a single wireless network from the Wireless menu.  

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PhilipDAth
Kind of a big deal

Re: Network That contains both an MR access point and a security appliance with integrated wireless.

I would keep them in the same network, otherwise things might get worse.

 

I would try and use a bridge mode SSID to minimise problems.

TimLillis
Conversationalist

Re: Network That contains both an MR access point and a security appliance with integrated wireless.

Seriously?! we are doing a test on our remote sites and this is a deal breaker.  What garbage.  Why make a security device to vpn to main branch that doesnt fully integrate with your existing product. 

MerakiDave
Meraki Employee

Re: Network That contains both an MR access point and a security appliance with integrated wireless.

@Mikey you are correct, the wireless version of the MX appliances are meant to be for small standalone deployments as @PhilipDAth indicated.  If you then add an MR to that same network, you would have to manage it as 2 separate wireless networks, one from the Wireless locale in Dashboard and one from the Wireless Settings page under the Security Appliance locale.  This can work but not seamlessly and not best practice, it's still 2 separate networks and was not meant to scale in that fashion.  The way to scale that is deploying a non-W MX appliance (or disabling wireless on the MX) and deploying 2 access points to be managed as a single wireless network from the Wireless menu.  

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TimLillis
Conversationalist

Re: Network That contains both an MR access point and a security appliance with integrated wireless.

This would make more sense if you had 4:4 instead of 2:2 in the MX65w to handle a remote site solo.

Agent14
New here

Re: Network That contains both an MR access point and a security appliance with integrated wireless.

This really doesn't make any sense.  If I have a small office and I just want two wireless points, you're forcing me to buy three devices even though you sell a router with wireless capability! 

 

There is absolutely no reason to prevent this from integrating other than you wanting to make more money.

 

This is terrible. 

 

I have always enjoyed Meraki devices and platform. I think it's awesome that you have brought the power of CLI to a useable UI and given us what we need to setup networks quickly and easily (albeit with a yearly price attached).

What I don't get is this apparent bizarre decision.

 

What could possibly justify not allowing the two wireless networks to mesh?

TimLillis
Conversationalist

Re: Network That contains both an MR access point and a security appliance with integrated wireless.

I totally agree. I switched to ruckus unleashed and disabled the WiFi and regret getting this WiFi “model.” It appears Cisco has gotten too big and is focusing on profit over customer satisfaction.
Adrian_Roata
Conversationalist

Re: Network That contains both an MR access point and a security appliance with integrated wireless.

With all due respect, this is an observation which we also made as users. 
Please take into consideration this as a feedback and try to implement the option to mesh the security appliance with the MR.

Best regards,
Adrian

EDillenburg
New here

Re: Network That contains both an MR access point and a security appliance with integrated wireless.

Please provide a way to have the MX64W as a gateway, directly connected to the Internet, and a few MR APs (MR34 in my case) as repeaters and meshed up. This should be an easy task for Meraki and nothing that we should treat as two separated networks as stated before...

DaveWild
Conversationalist

Re: Network That contains both an MR access point and a security appliance with integrated wireless.

Hi all,

Has anything chnaged since the original post ?  I have the same issue,  customer has poor coverage so wishes to add an AP for further coverage.

 

Thanks

Bruce
Kind of a big deal

Re: Network That contains both an MR access point and a security appliance with integrated wireless.

@DaveWild, unfortunately no. The MX-W and MR wireless are two different systems (and likely always will be). If you don’t need seamless roaming between them then you can set them up the same so that clients can associate to either, but you won’t get the benefits of them being on the same ‘controller’. (You may also need to do some fine tuning around Air Marshal and channel selection to get things working properly - so not as simple as you’d like).

DaveWild
Conversationalist

Re: Network That contains both an MR access point and a security appliance with integrated wireless.

Brill thanks for the speedy reply

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