i'm not arguing just to argue, i'm trying to provide a view that isn't often discussed or considered on how usernames and credentials can be made more secure which is the root of the whole post, making a users login harder to know.   of course the more entropy you add to a password makes it harder to guess, i've never said otherwise in any of my statements. what i'm trying to say is that allowing special characters is not the only way to make a login more secure and shouldn't be considered a requirement. ... View more