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BobHarrison

This looks like it would work if we don't have to add any devices prior to the co-term date. We still lose the remaining days on the unused licenses, this just removes them immediately.

BobHarrison

Thanks Ryan, It does not appear that renewal removes unused licenses counts and add the remaining time on those to active licenses. It just adds time onto all of the licenses. I would still have to move unused licenses to a different 'graveyard' organization and let the time expire there. Correct?

BobHarrison

Thanks. That is what I am finding is that no matter what I do we lose that time on the unused licenses. What I think would make sense is that we should be able to cancel a license. Any time remaining from the orignial purchase would be lost. So if we bought a three year license and cancel it after two years we would lose a year. But if cancel after 4 years, any additional time that was added due only from other purchases would be added to active ones. Just my opinion. Co-term works great while you have a growing network, but not when you downsize one part of it.

BobHarrison

Thanks for that info. BUT, if we add a switch it will bump ALL of the devices out to a new co-term date, so there will never be a renewal date unless we stop adding devices. Can a renewal process be done before the co-term date? Can the unused licenses be removed at that time and have the time added to the active licenses?

BobHarrison

Thanks, that does make more sense than moving the active ones. Would that add time onto the devices in the original organizations, or does that time go to the new organization with the inactive MR?

BobHarrison

I read the article. If I understand it correctly it will fix going forward if I put all of the MR in one organization and all MS in another. Then adding another MS will not extend the unused MR licenses. I still lose the cost of the unused MR licenses in the new organization.

BobHarrison

There are other issues we deal with using Meraki and we are always looking to see if there are better options for our company. The co-termination was a major plus for adminstering our environment. So since that has cost us financially and we can't keep using co-termination other solutions MAY be better for us.

BobHarrison

So as long as I am expanding my network the co-termination licensing works great. But when I downsize any part of it (in our case the number of access points), we are stuck with paying for those licenses forever unless we go to PDL. Even then in our case, there will be over a year of time left on those unused MR device licenses. We have been exploring options for our networking equipment including Meraki and others. If this is correct, then Meraki will not make our short list.

BobHarrison

I know about adding licenses and the grace periods, What I'm asking, is when I do purchase the MS license either before or during the 30 day grace period, how do I avoid having those extra days being added to existing licenses that I am not using?

BobHarrison

Thanks for your reply. I know how buying a new license is spread over all devices and moves the cotermination date forward. My question is what happens if I buy a new device like a MS switch that I don't have a current license to apply to it. When I purchase the license it is going to extend the co-termination date on the 17 MR access points that I am using. It looks like I will never be able to get those 17 MR access points off my licenses until I reach the co-termination date. That may never happen is I keep adding switches or other devices that keep bumping the co-termination date further into the future.

BobHarrison

We have co-termination licensing in place. Our license limit for MR access points is 34, but we are only using 17. If we were to purchase a new MS switch, the time would be spread over the 34 MR access points, also, even though we aren't using half of them. Is that correct? If yes, how do we avoid that? Is there a way to reduce the license limit so we are not burning time on licenses that are not being used? Thanks

BobHarrison · ‎Mar 6 2024

Thanks for the link. So the short answer is no. We can't punch a small hole to allow one website from a blocked country, we have to open the door wide open. It would be nice if the MX worked like the MR devices that determine if a site is whitelisted on Layer 3 it bypasses Layer 7 rules.

BobHarrison · ‎Mar 6 2024

We have a website that uses cdnfonts.com for some content. cdnfonts.com is hosted in Spain. We block most countries in the Layer 7 network rules. Is there anyway to override this block for just this one website? I know we can use a Group Policy to allow Spain for just certain clients, but we would have to recreate all of the Layer 7 rules in that policy because you can't just add one rule to the existing. The options are: Use network firewall & shaping rules - This does not allow any changes. The option is greyed out. Ignore network firewall & shaping rules Custom network firewall & shaping rules - We would have reeenter ALL of the Layer 7 rules and then allow all of Spain and apply just for selecet clients. Am I missing anything that would allow just this one website? We are using an MX84 firewall.

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