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WE Need IPV6 Support in MX

Subject says it all...  We need proper IPV6 support in the MX Platform...    Even IPV6 tunnelling doesn't work at this point.

 

Anyone else have soem comments?

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Re: WE Need IPV6 Support in MX


cantechit wrote:

Subject says it all...  We need proper IPV6 support in the MX Platform...    Even IPV6 tunnelling doesn't work at this point.

 

Anyone else have soem comments?


Can't agree enough. Specifically, on the WAN portion.

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I've been requesting this for a while now. Clearly not a priority for the MX team unfortunately. 

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This has become a problem for our customers that use the client VPN and have T-Mobile iOS devices. Since T-Mobile has moved to IPv6 only, and the iPhone's lack of CLAT support, the VPN client doesn't work.

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I've been waiting for IPv6 support for years now, and there's been little or no apparent movement on it.  I'd be happy with a separate beta firmware branch that has it enabled even if it's a bit broken.

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Bryan_Vukich wrote:

I've been waiting for IPv6 support for years now, and there's been little or no apparent movement on it.  I'd be happy with a separate beta firmware branch that has it enabled even if it's a bit broken.


This. All of our WAN providers have IPv6 being given to us, and we can't use it.

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I'll second. The time has come for full IPv6 support.

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Yes much needed support.  Have to sell cisco solutions when customer need IPv6 which is more and more    Websites behind meraki need IPv6 support.   Would love to sell meraki solution

 

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Fully agree... and if IPv6 is too complicated for Meraki's developers, they probably can get some help from Cisco dev. team Smiley Wink

 

Meraki, you've added the possibility to have an IPv6 to the Switches... now finish the work and add a full IPv6 support to the MX, the AP, ...

 

Rol.

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At this point I'm genuinely curious about the lack of IPv6 support on the WAN for the MX series. They have expanded IPv6 support to much of the other product lines, yet it remains missing from the WAN side.

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@BHC_RESORTS Agreed. I've been asking about it for a while now. Perhaps they're having a hard time making it Meraki simple to run dual-stack. 

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Can we get a formal statement from Meraki Product Manager on the lack of IPv6 support on the MX products? Is the PM listening in on this thread?

 

This is now more and more a must-have!

 

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Totally agree. Chasing them for a year now. Just cannot believe that this is so hard to develop. Every other plastic box has it.

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agreed. especially for clientVPN.

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Completely agree, especially for Client VPN.

 

Meraki MX Product Managers, why are you so silent on this topic? What is the point of having a "community" if you aren't going to update those of us deploying and managing Meraki based networks for our mutual customers? IPV6 has landed and you can't support it?

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The main thing is IPv6 is supported on the CIsco platform, its adapting it for the Meraki Dashboard that takes an effort and they haven't informed us of their time/effort on this.

 

I really strongly recommend IPv6 implementation since more and more web resources are efficient via IPv6 due to NAT traversal that IPv4 has to perform.


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Chris_M wrote:

The main thing is IPv6 is supported on the CIsco platform, its adapting it for the Meraki Dashboard that takes an effort and they haven't informed us of their time/effort on this.


Just to be clear - the MX devices don't run IOS. 

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Does anyone have a update on this, and did anyone see this post below by chance then attend the webinar?

Also I see there is another quarterly update webinar coming up, maybe an opportunity to ask Meraki directly.

 

https://community.meraki.com/t5/Security-SD-WAN/MX100/m-p/7718/highlight/true#M1987
Correct @MRCUR IPv6 routing is not there now but being developed on the MX line.  @JeromeBL tune into a Meraki Quarterly or Meraki MX webinar and you can ask live Q&A.  For example there is an MX webinar coming up on Jan 4th.  https://meraki.cisco.com/webinars

 

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I will be attending the quarterly update webinar. We'll see if anything being said there.


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I agree, other vendors have been offering this for a while now. I suggest we all go to our dashboard now and make a request for it, if you have already made a request do it again.

 

At the end of the day we need products that work for us and if Meraki won't listen they will lose business.

 

@MerakiDave @CarolineS Can you push this, the community have been asking for a long time now!

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ACK.  There will be some announcements coming up in the next month, unfortunately I don't think IPv6 for the MX is in the next batch of regular product/feature announcements.  But the fearute request is firmly in place.  Please do get your designs and use cases fed back through your Meraki sales team, they need to take any/all of your opportunities and add them to the Feature Request so things can be prioritized, and you may also be able to get on an early beta firmware when the time comes.

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@MerakiDave IPv6 WAN support is really what is needed on our side. All of our upstream providers offer it. While we don't really have any plans for IPv6 port forwarding or anything like that ATM, offloading traffic to native IPv6 is just part of being a good netizen. We also like to support the broadest range of connectivity options we can.

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We need IPv6 support for a customer solution to service the dual stack solution they are asking!

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The quarterly update confirms that they are aware of the increasing request for IPv6. Some regions are becoming exclusively or dominantly IPv6 and a team is working on it but no projections at this time.

 

Its recommended to provide a use case so they can optimize their development process to fulfill our wishes.


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use case: VPN clients with IPv6 only connectivity must be able to connect.

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Chris_M wrote:

Its recommended to provide a use case so they can optimize their development process to fulfill our wishes.


This sort of drives me nuts about the Meraki internal feature request process. What is the use case for IPv6 on the MX line (or ANY product line)? IPv6 connectivity is the use case. It's 2018. IPv6 is not new. It's widely available from the ISP side. 

 

Not everything can directly be tied to a specific sale or use case. The MX line is meant to be a modern UTM/firewall appliance... IPv6 should probably be part of the feature set. 

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@MRCUR Agreed. I heard MS's are getting IPv6 Routing and MR's already have some support its time for MX's to get full IPv6 support. Especially when cheap consumer routers are getting it.

 

I totally understand providing use cases to justify some feature requests but @MRCUR hits the nail with this one the use case is getting the support.

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@MRCUR: Completely agree. Our ISPs offer us IPv6 and it would be great to offer it as well.

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Now the new year started and we continue without support of IPv6 in MX devices. All the provider are offering IPv6 and many sites working inside of this technology, as well as IPv6 traffic globally keep increasing.

 

We need has this support in order to increase customer support and increase installation and many countries. All vendor are accepting this feature. 


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At the moment the MX range is like a premier league player's WAG. 

To explain, the northern county of Cheshire is is very pleasant and full of desirable properties (like Greenwich, or Scarsdale or Bronxville for East Coasters) so is choc full of flash money. Dry northern humour says of these otherwise admirable women, something along the lines of "that's all fur coat, no knickers" it is even in the Oxford dictionary.

 

Back to the MX, too much it doesn't do -

 

in no particular order and with no pretense at being comprehensive

 

  • IGMP proxy (for multicast)
  • can't provide access to Chromecast devices from a different VLAN (unlike Bonjour)
  • no IPv6 (and don't even contemplate tunnelling, please)
  • can't put a local IP address on WAN uplink
  • no IKEv2 (forst published 2005 - Internet standard 2014)

as the dictionary definition says - Have an impressive or sophisticated appearance which belies the fact that there is nothing to substantiate it. The MX is in need of love and attention. Cisco manages to do it.

 

 

 

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IGMP proxy (for multicast)

I'm curious on your use case for this. Hardly ever see multicast used in most environments.
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BHC_RESORTS wrote:
IGMP proxy (for multicast)

I'm curious on your use case for this. Hardly ever see multicast used in most environments.

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Well different technologies in different parts of the world.

 

In North America corporations make extensive use of video conferencing over internal networks. Multicast makes a lot of sense in this situation, it helps prevent duplicate streams overwhelming the network (not unlike Akamai). In Europe and East Asia a slightly different configuration is used to distribute premium subscription TV content. As the telcos, who also happen to be content distributors, like to make efficient use of their own networks, they chose to use multicast. These telcos, mostly the original PTT incumbents, also provide managed services. They need the equipment they use to provide and mange services to be able to handle fixed, mobile, VoIP, broadband and television subscriptions. If it can't do VoIP and television, it is not nearly as popular as it could be.

 

I will be watching the Winter Olympics live from Korea in 4K TV, not having multicast for something like that is very expensive for the carrier/ISP. The most popular sport on television in most of the world is football (soccer in the USA). The most watched leagues globally are the Champions League (top European teams) and the premier leagues of the UK, Germany, Spain, Italy and France, even in East Asia. Getting 4K TV is a big part of this.

 

Delivering managed services to bars with premium sport on TV is big and profitable business.

 

These premium services go beyond sports, so many professional practices will have multicast capability as part of their corporate infrastructure, but also they are able to handle the version that the subscription services make use of. Certainly I saw the the TV in the doctors waiting room showing multicast channels.

 

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Yes!  We needed this like a year ago.  Most of our cell phone users can’t connect to the client VPN since carriers are switching to IPv6 only.  Please get this done Meraki!

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If Meraki is looking for a use case here is one:

 

The Meraki MX systems value manageability over connectivity as compared to all the other firewall vendors.  This puts them behind in basic functionality.  If you need or want IPV6, a Meraki MX is not for you.  Is that what the company really wants?

 

Why can Sonicwall, Cisco, Watchguard, Fortinet and others all support IPV6.  Does Meraki not understand that the IPV4 pool in the US was depleted last year?

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Agreed.  The phone carriers push out an update last week that broke our phone VPN's for all carriers except ATT.  This is directly impacting our business as our sales people can't VPN into our network to do their demos.  I am the | | close to telling Meraki to pick up their gear.  v6 is 15 years old and there is no excuse for lack of support.

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@jhouts wrote:

Agreed.  The phone carriers push out an update last week that broke our phone VPN's for all carriers except ATT.  This is directly impacting our business as our sales people can't VPN into our network to do their demos.  I am the | | close to telling Meraki to pick up their gear.  v6 is 15 years old and there is no excuse for lack of support.


I can't find a flaw in your argument. The entire MX line probably needs replacement.

 

For our own distributed environment we are placing a BrandX gateway ahead of each MX because that gives us IPv6, hideous IoT and multicast coverage, that Meraki simply does not address.

 

If Meraki does come up with an MX alternative, I seriously hope that they adopt the principal of zonal security.

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You're right! It would be great if IPv6 is supported.

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Has Meraki said anything officially or unofficially about this yet?

 

As more and more IPv6-only endpoints appear, it's becoming more of an issue everyday in various environments.

 

 

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@edcho wrote:

Has Meraki said anything officially or unofficially about this yet? 


The MX team did mention that v6 is "on our roadmap" in the Quarterly Update yesterday. See here (33:05 timestamp): https://youtu.be/CBCTMh-h2zs?t=33m5s

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I agree with this, awaiting response from Cisco Meraki due to VPN's breaking and support for IPv6.

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I do find it a bit disappointing that for the price and everything else that these devices don't support IPv6.

 

These are supposed to be the best of the best yet can't handle IPv6.

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I would imagine adding support for IPV6 would be a full stack project the touches all parts of the architecture, so it not a task to jump into lightly.  That said, there are no more IPV4 addresses in the US, except at ISPs.  Any new technologies like 5G will need IPV6 addresses, so it high time for Meraki to be working actively on the issue.

 

It is good to hear that it is on the road map, but it would be better to know that there is a live project for it.

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